Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
including the updates that go with them? ..
Cannot install update KB979906 for .NET Framework 1.1 SP1
#2
Ǝиçεl
Posted 08 June 2010 - 03:25 PM
Hello sherlockomes,
you might want to look at the following kb article to see if this will help
with the error 80070643.
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070643>
-=-
Hope this helps, if not wait for more responses, please
Ǝиçεl
©¿©¬
-=-
"sherlockomes" wrote:
> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
> having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
> including the updates that go with them? ..
you might want to look at the following kb article to see if this will help
with the error 80070643.
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070643>
-=-
Hope this helps, if not wait for more responses, please
Ǝиçεl
©¿©¬
-=-
"sherlockomes" wrote:
> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
> having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
> including the updates that go with them? ..
#3
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 08 June 2010 - 03:54 PM
First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
after doing so:
How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
If no joy, see...
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
Then proceed per the following:
=====================
Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:
How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones
you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:
1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.
Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
updates offered.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
sherlockomes wrote:
> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe
> to
> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
after doing so:
How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
If no joy, see...
When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
Then proceed per the following:
=====================
Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
versions are currently installed:
How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones
you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
Framework versions in the following order:
1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
NB: KB923100 references this page:
http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please read
ALL of it as well as the related page
http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
Framework Cleanup Tool.
Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
updates offered.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
sherlockomes wrote:
> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe
> to
> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
#4
sherlockomes
Posted 08 June 2010 - 06:17 PM
Thanks for info..Followed link and used repair tool for .NET Framework then
tried to re-install update with no success.I took a chance and just
un-installed the .NET 1.1 framework from add/remove programmes which also
removed all the previous 1.1 Framework fixes with it.I then re-installed it
via wndows updates with success.I restarted computer and then checked for
windows updates as normal which included KB979906 and it installed perfectly
without any errors.The earlier hotfixes did not appear as necessary updates
so i can only imagine they are now no longer required as KB979906 perhaps
incorporates all necessary fixes but i am only guessing.
Luckily i did not have to uninstall all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
3.5 and reinstall them which would be a long process but the quick
alternative worked ok for me (so far)....
"Ǝиçεl" wrote:
> Hello sherlockomes,
>
> you might want to look at the following kb article to see if this will help
> with the error 80070643.
>
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070643>
> -=-
>
> Hope this helps, if not wait for more responses, please
>
>
> Ǝиçεl
> ©¿©¬
> -=-
>
> "sherlockomes" wrote:
>
> > Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> > Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> > manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
> > uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
> > having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
> > including the updates that go with them? ..
tried to re-install update with no success.I took a chance and just
un-installed the .NET 1.1 framework from add/remove programmes which also
removed all the previous 1.1 Framework fixes with it.I then re-installed it
via wndows updates with success.I restarted computer and then checked for
windows updates as normal which included KB979906 and it installed perfectly
without any errors.The earlier hotfixes did not appear as necessary updates
so i can only imagine they are now no longer required as KB979906 perhaps
incorporates all necessary fixes but i am only guessing.
Luckily i did not have to uninstall all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
3.5 and reinstall them which would be a long process but the quick
alternative worked ok for me (so far)....
"Ǝиçεl" wrote:
> Hello sherlockomes,
>
> you might want to look at the following kb article to see if this will help
> with the error 80070643.
>
> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Windows-Update-error-80070643>
> -=-
>
> Hope this helps, if not wait for more responses, please
>
>
> Ǝиçεl
> ©¿©¬
> -=-
>
> "sherlockomes" wrote:
>
> > Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> > Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> > manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe to
> > uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt , without
> > having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and 3.5
> > including the updates that go with them? ..
#5
TruckerHarley
Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:51 AM
Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people .Net
not working.
It seems these two are causing the problems:
KB979909
KB982168
We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
what's going on.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
> after doing so:
>
> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>
> If no joy, see...
>
> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>
> Then proceed per the following:
>
> =====================
>
> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
> versions are currently installed:
>
> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> whether service packs have been applied
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>
> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>
> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones
> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>
> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
> Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
> Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>
> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
> Framework versions in the following order:
>
> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>
> NB: KB923100 references this page:
> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please read
> ALL of it as well as the related page
> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>
> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
> updates offered.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> sherlockomes wrote:
> > Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> > Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> > manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe
> > to
> > uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> > without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
> > 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>
> .
>
not working.
It seems these two are causing the problems:
KB979909
KB982168
We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
what's going on.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
> after doing so:
>
> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>
> If no joy, see...
>
> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>
> Then proceed per the following:
>
> =====================
>
> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
> versions are currently installed:
>
> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> whether service packs have been applied
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>
> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>
> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the ones
> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>
> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling .NET
> Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2; then
> Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>
> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
> Framework versions in the following order:
>
> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>
> NB: KB923100 references this page:
> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please read
> ALL of it as well as the related page
> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>
> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
> updates offered.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> sherlockomes wrote:
> > Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> > Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> > manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it safe
> > to
> > uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> > without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3 and
> > 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>
> .
>
#6
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 09 June 2010 - 10:05 AM
What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
Who knows why but only you can fix it.
See my previous reply or...
See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
(1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
Or you can...
Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
can visit the following page for assistance:
https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.
TruckerHarley wrote:
> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
> .Net
> not working.
>
> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>
> KB979909
> KB982168
>
> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
> what's going on.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
>> after doing so:
>>
>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>
>> If no joy, see...
>>
>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>
>> Then proceed per the following:
>>
>> =====================
>>
>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>> versions are currently installed:
>>
>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
>> and
>> whether service packs have been applied
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>
>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>
>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
>> ones
>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>
>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>
>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>
>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>
>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
>> read
>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>
>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>> updates offered.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
>>> safe
>>> to
>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
>>> and
>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>
>> .
Who knows why but only you can fix it.
See my previous reply or...
See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
(1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
Or you can...
Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
can visit the following page for assistance:
https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
your usual support contacts.
TruckerHarley wrote:
> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
> .Net
> not working.
>
> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>
> KB979909
> KB982168
>
> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
> what's going on.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
>> after doing so:
>>
>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>
>> If no joy, see...
>>
>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>
>> Then proceed per the following:
>>
>> =====================
>>
>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>> versions are currently installed:
>>
>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
>> and
>> whether service packs have been applied
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>
>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>
>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
>> ones
>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>
>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>
>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>
>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>
>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
>> read
>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>
>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>> updates offered.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
>>> safe
>>> to
>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
>>> and
>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>
>> .
#7
Susan Bradley
Posted 09 June 2010 - 12:11 PM
It's .net. They barf. Their "servicing" process sucks. There's no way
to predict what machines may have patching issues or not. You just have
to be ready when .NET has updates.
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2
> computers. Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>
> See my previous reply or...
>
> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling
> 1-866-PCSAFETY (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or
> 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada or by contacting
> your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls
> that are associated with security updates. When you call, clearly
> state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the
> update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>
> Or you can...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates
> also can visit the following page for assistance:
> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
> Support Web site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>
> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available
> through your usual support contacts.
>
>
> TruckerHarley wrote:
>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2
>> people .Net
>> not working.
>>
>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>
>> KB979909
>> KB982168
>>
>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>> what's going on.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will
>>> install
>>> after doing so:
>>>
>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>
>>> If no joy, see...
>>>
>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you
>>> may
>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>
>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>
>>> =====================
>>>
>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>
>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are
>>> installed and
>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>
>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>
>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows
>>> Installer
>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only
>>> the ones
>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the
>>> page
>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>
>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0
>>> SP2;
>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>
>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your
>>> .NET
>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>
>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>
>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx.
>>> Please read
>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>
>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>> updates offered.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>>
>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is
>>>> it safe
>>>> to
>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2
>>>> , 3 and
>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>
>>> .
>
to predict what machines may have patching issues or not. You just have
to be ready when .NET has updates.
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2
> computers. Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>
> See my previous reply or...
>
> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling
> 1-866-PCSAFETY (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or
> 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada or by contacting
> your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls
> that are associated with security updates. When you call, clearly
> state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the
> update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>
> Or you can...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates
> also can visit the following page for assistance:
> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
> Support Web site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>
> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available
> through your usual support contacts.
>
>
> TruckerHarley wrote:
>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2
>> people .Net
>> not working.
>>
>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>
>> KB979909
>> KB982168
>>
>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>> what's going on.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will
>>> install
>>> after doing so:
>>>
>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>
>>> If no joy, see...
>>>
>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you
>>> may
>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>
>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>
>>> =====================
>>>
>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>
>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are
>>> installed and
>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>
>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>
>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows
>>> Installer
>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only
>>> the ones
>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the
>>> page
>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>
>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0
>>> SP2;
>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>
>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your
>>> .NET
>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>
>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>
>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx.
>>> Please read
>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>
>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>> updates offered.
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>>
>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is
>>>> it safe
>>>> to
>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2
>>>> , 3 and
>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>
>>> .
>
#8
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:20 PM
No need to preach to the bass section of the choir, m'dear...
Susan Bradley wrote:
> It's .net. They barf. Their "servicing" process sucks. There's no way
> to predict what machines may have patching issues or not. You just have
> to be ready when .NET has updates.
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2
>> computers. Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>>
>> See my previous reply or...
>>
>> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling
>> 1-866-PCSAFETY (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or
>> 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada or by contacting
>> your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls
>> that are associated with security updates. When you call, clearly
>> state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the
>> update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
>> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates
>> also can visit the following page for assistance:
>> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
>> Support Web site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>>
>> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available
>> through your usual support contacts.
>>
>>
>> TruckerHarley wrote:
>>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2
>>> people .Net
>>> not working.
>>>
>>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>>
>>> KB979909
>>> KB982168
>>>
>>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>>> what's going on.
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will
>>>> install
>>>> after doing so:
>>>>
>>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>>
>>>> If no joy, see...
>>>>
>>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you
>>>> may
>>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>>
>>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>>
>>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are
>>>> installed and
>>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>>
>>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>>
>>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows
>>>> Installer
>>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only
>>>> the ones
>>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the
>>>> page
>>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>>
>>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0
>>>> SP2;
>>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>>
>>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your
>>>> .NET
>>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>>
>>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>>
>>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx.
>>>> Please read
>>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>>
>>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>>> updates offered.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is
>>>>> it safe
>>>>> to
>>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2
>>>>> , 3 and
>>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>>
>>>> .
Susan Bradley wrote:
> It's .net. They barf. Their "servicing" process sucks. There's no way
> to predict what machines may have patching issues or not. You just have
> to be ready when .NET has updates.
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2
>> computers. Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>>
>> See my previous reply or...
>>
>> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling
>> 1-866-PCSAFETY (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or
>> 1-800-936-5700) in the United States and in Canada or by contacting
>> your local Microsoft subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls
>> that are associated with security updates. When you call, clearly
>> state that your problem is related to a Security Update and cite the
>> update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
>> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates
>> also can visit the following page for assistance:
>> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft
>> subsidiary for security update support issues, visit the International
>> Support Web site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>>
>> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available
>> through your usual support contacts.
>>
>>
>> TruckerHarley wrote:
>>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2
>>> people .Net
>>> not working.
>>>
>>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>>
>>> KB979909
>>> KB982168
>>>
>>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>>> what's going on.
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will
>>>> install
>>>> after doing so:
>>>>
>>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>>
>>>> If no joy, see...
>>>>
>>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you
>>>> may
>>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>>
>>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>>
>>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are
>>>> installed and
>>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>>
>>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>>
>>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows
>>>> Installer
>>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only
>>>> the ones
>>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the
>>>> page
>>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>>
>>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0
>>>> SP2;
>>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>>
>>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your
>>>> .NET
>>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>>
>>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>>
>>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx.
>>>> Please read
>>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>>
>>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>>> updates offered.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is
>>>>> it safe
>>>>> to
>>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2
>>>>> , 3 and
>>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>>
>>>> .
#9
unclemikenebr
Posted 09 June 2010 - 05:53 PM
Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
Mike
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
> Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>
> See my previous reply or...
>
> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
> (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
> States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
> There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
> updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
> Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>
> Or you can...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
> can visit the following page for assistance:
> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
> site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>
> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
> your usual support contacts.
>
>
> TruckerHarley wrote:
> > Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
> > .Net
> > not working.
> >
> > It seems these two are causing the problems:
> >
> > KB979909
> > KB982168
> >
> > We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
> > what's going on.
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
> >> after doing so:
> >>
> >> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
> >>
> >> If no joy, see...
> >>
> >> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
> >> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
> >>
> >> Then proceed per the following:
> >>
> >> =====================
> >>
> >> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
> >> versions are currently installed:
> >>
> >> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
> >> and
> >> whether service packs have been applied
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
> >>
> >> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
> >>
> >> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
> >> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
> >> ones
> >> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
> >> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
> >>
> >> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
> >> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
> >> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
> >>
> >> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
> >> Framework versions in the following order:
> >>
> >> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
> >> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
> >> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
> >>
> >> NB: KB923100 references this page:
> >> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
> >> read
> >> ALL of it as well as the related page
> >> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
> >> Framework Cleanup Tool.
> >>
> >> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
> >> updates offered.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>
> >>
> >> sherlockomes wrote:
> >>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> >>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> >>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
> >>> safe
> >>> to
> >>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> >>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
> >>> and
> >>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
> >>
> >> .
>
> .
>
Mike
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
> Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>
> See my previous reply or...
>
> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>
> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
> (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
> States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
> There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
> updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
> Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>
> Or you can...
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>
> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
> can visit the following page for assistance:
> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>
> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
> site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>
> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
> your usual support contacts.
>
>
> TruckerHarley wrote:
> > Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
> > .Net
> > not working.
> >
> > It seems these two are causing the problems:
> >
> > KB979909
> > KB982168
> >
> > We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
> > what's going on.
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> First run the Fix It in this KB article & see if the update will install
> >> after doing so:
> >>
> >> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
> >>
> >> If no joy, see...
> >>
> >> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
> >> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
> >>
> >> Then proceed per the following:
> >>
> >> =====================
> >>
> >> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
> >> versions are currently installed:
> >>
> >> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
> >> and
> >> whether service packs have been applied
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
> >>
> >> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
> >>
> >> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
> >> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
> >> ones
> >> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
> >> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
> >>
> >> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
> >> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
> >> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
> >>
> >> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
> >> Framework versions in the following order:
> >>
> >> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
> >> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
> >> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
> >>
> >> NB: KB923100 references this page:
> >> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
> >> read
> >> ALL of it as well as the related page
> >> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
> >> Framework Cleanup Tool.
> >>
> >> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
> >> updates offered.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>
> >>
> >> sherlockomes wrote:
> >>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
> >>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
> >>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
> >>> safe
> >>> to
> >>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
> >>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
> >>> and
> >>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
> >>
> >> .
>
> .
>
#10
Harry Johnston [MVP]
Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:12 PM
On 2010-06-10 11:53 a.m., unclemikenebr wrote:
> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
... I wasn't aware that anybody had. :-)
Harry.
> Mike
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
>> Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>>
>> See my previous reply or...
>>
>> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>> (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
>> States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
>> There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
>> updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
>> Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
>> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
>> can visit the following page for assistance:
>> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
>> site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>>
>> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
>> your usual support contacts.
>>
>>
>> TruckerHarley wrote:
>>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
>>> .Net
>>> not working.
>>>
>>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>>
>>> KB979909
>>> KB982168
>>>
>>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>>> what's going on.
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article& see if the update will install
>>>> after doing so:
>>>>
>>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>>
>>>> If no joy, see...
>>>>
>>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
>>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>>
>>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>>
>>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
>>>> and
>>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>>
>>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>>
>>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
>>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
>>>> ones
>>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
>>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>>
>>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
>>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>>
>>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
>>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>>
>>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>>
>>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
>>>> read
>>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>>
>>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>>> updates offered.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
>>>>> safe
>>>>> to
>>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
>>>>> and
>>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>> .
>>
--
Harry Johnston
http://harryjohnston.wordpress.com
> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
... I wasn't aware that anybody had. :-)
Harry.
> Mike
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What's going on is that the updates aren't installing on the 2 computers.
>> Who knows why but only you can fix it.
>>
>> See my previous reply or...
>>
>> See the "How to obtain help" section of, e.g.,
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979909
>>
>> For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY
>> (1-866-727-2338; and/or 1-866-234-6020 and/or 1-800-936-5700) in the United
>> States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft subsidiary.
>> There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with security
>> updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related to a
>> Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB979909).
>>
>> Or you can...
>>
>> Start a free Windows Update support incident email request:
>> https://support.micr...aspx?gprid=6527
>>
>> Customers who experience issues installing Microsoft security updates also
>> can visit the following page for assistance:
>> https://consumersecu....microsoft.com/
>>
>> For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
>> for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
>> site: http://support.micro...ernational.aspx
>>
>> For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
>> your usual support contacts.
>>
>>
>> TruckerHarley wrote:
>>> Same thing happened when we tried to update. 2 people updated, 2 people
>>> .Net
>>> not working.
>>>
>>> It seems these two are causing the problems:
>>>
>>> KB979909
>>> KB982168
>>>
>>> We are refraining from updating the rest of the computers until we know
>>> what's going on.
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> First run the Fix It in this KB article& see if the update will install
>>>> after doing so:
>>>>
>>>> How to fix MSI software update registration corruption issues
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971187
>>>>
>>>> If no joy, see...
>>>>
>>>> When installing updates using Windows update or Microsoft Update you may
>>>> receive Error 0x643 or 0x80070643 (23 Oct-09)
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
>>>>
>>>> Then proceed per the following:
>>>>
>>>> =====================
>>>>
>>>> Step #1 => Before doing anything else, write down what .NET Framework
>>>> versions are currently installed:
>>>>
>>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed
>>>> and
>>>> whether service packs have been applied
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>>>
>>>> Step #2 => Now see Resolution Method 2 in this related KB article:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100
>>>>
>>>> After running the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool (not the Windows Installer
>>>> Cleanup utility!), reinstall all .NET Framework versions (but only the
>>>> ones
>>>> you wrote down in #1 above) manually using the download links on the page
>>>> then run Windows Update manually to install security updates for same.
>>>>
>>>> NB: If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) using the tool, reinstalling
>>>> .NET Framework 3.5 will also install .Net Framework 2.0 SP2 and 3.0 SP2;
>>>> then Windows Update will offer .NET Framework 3.5 SP1.
>>>>
>>>> IMPORTANT! => If you remove .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1), reinstall your .NET
>>>> Framework versions in the following order:
>>>>
>>>> 1. .Net Framework 3.5, then...
>>>> 2. .Net Framework 1.1, then...
>>>> 3. .Net Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>>
>>>> NB: KB923100 references this page:
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co.../30/611355.aspx. Please
>>>> read
>>>> ALL of it as well as the related page
>>>> http://blogs.msdn.co...es/8904493.aspx before using the .NET
>>>> Framework Cleanup Tool.
>>>>
>>>> Step #3 => Check-in at Windows Update and install any critical security
>>>> updates offered.
>>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sherlockomes wrote:
>>>>> Running : Windows XP media center edition SP3
>>>>> Have tried installing KB979906 a few times and also downloaded update
>>>>> manually but cannot install this update. Receiving error 0x643.Is it
>>>>> safe
>>>>> to
>>>>> uninstall the .NET Framework 1.1 and re-install as possibly corrupt ,
>>>>> without having to uninstall/re-install all other .NET frameworks 2 , 3
>>>>> and
>>>>> 3.5 including the updates that go with them? ..
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>> .
>>
--
Harry Johnston
http://harryjohnston.wordpress.com
#11
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 09 June 2010 - 06:45 PM
[Another county heard from...]
Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed:
http://gawker.com/55...-owners-exposed
unclemikenebr wrote:
> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
<snip>
Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed:
http://gawker.com/55...-owners-exposed
unclemikenebr wrote:
> Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
<snip>
#12
R. Melville
Posted 10 June 2010 - 08:47 AM
Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first time I
have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed that
the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE of
these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
the first place!
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed that
the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE of
these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
the first place!
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
#13
remdds
Posted 10 June 2010 - 10:13 AM
Same problem here on my PC. The MS TS email response I got was (basically
the same- just trying to complete the info contained in this post for all
those who come after):
The issue can be caused by a damaged .NET Framework component. At this time,
please refer to the following steps to troubleshoot this issue.
Step 1: Remove .NET Framework using removal tool
================================
1. Please download the tool from the following link:
http://cid-27e6a35d1...leanup_tool.zip
[Please Note: The third-party product discussed here is manufactured by a
company that is independent of Microsoft. We make no warranty, implied or
otherwise, regarding this product's performance or reliability. ]
2. Please save the zip file (dotnetfx_cleanup_tool.zip) from the above link
to the local Desktop and extract it.
3. Double click cleanup_tool.exe to run the tool.
4. Please follow the instructions given.
In the "Product to cleanup:" box, please select ".NET Framework – All
versions".
5. Click "Cleanup Now" button.
6. Restart the computer.
After performing these steps, please move on to the following suggestions
to reinstall .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0 and their updates.
Step 2: Install .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0, and their updates
============================================
Please download and install the following updates in order.
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package
http://download.micr...06/dotnetfx.exe
Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)
http://download.micr...5a/dotnetfx.exe
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
http://download.micr...B867460-X86.exe
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 Security Update(KB979906)
http://download.micr...B979906-X86.exe
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
http://download.micr...Fx20SP2_x86.exe
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows
2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)
http://download.micr...B974417-x86.exe
Note: When the "File Download" window appears, please click "Save", and
follow the directions to save the file on the Desktop. After downloading all
the setup files, please double-click on each one to install them.
#14
MowGreen
Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:45 AM
R. Melville wrote:
> Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first time I
> have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
>
> It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
>
> As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed that
> the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE of
> these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
> information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
> the first place!
Programs and applications that were installed by the OEM or you have
installed require the .NET Framework in order for them to function.
ATI's Catalyst Control Center and Quicken are 2 such apps/programs
amongst many others.
MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================
banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
> Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first time I
> have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
>
> It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
>
> As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed that
> the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE of
> these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
> information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
> the first place!
Programs and applications that were installed by the OEM or you have
installed require the .NET Framework in order for them to function.
ATI's Catalyst Control Center and Quicken are 2 such apps/programs
amongst many others.
MowGreen
================
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================
banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
#15
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:58 AM
That fix method will only make matters worse if .NET Framework 3.5 (SP1) is
installed & removed!
remdds wrote:
> Same problem here on my PC. The MS TS email response I got was (basically
> the same- just trying to complete the info contained in this post for all
> those who come after):
>
>
> The issue can be caused by a damaged .NET Framework component. At this
> time,
> please refer to the following steps to troubleshoot this issue.
>
> Step 1: Remove .NET Framework using removal tool
>
> ================================
>
> 1. Please download the tool from the following link:
>
> http://cid-27e6a35d1...leanup_tool.zip
> [Please Note: The third-party product discussed here is manufactured by a
> company that is independent of Microsoft. We make no warranty, implied or
> otherwise, regarding this product's performance or reliability. ]
>
> 2. Please save the zip file (dotnetfx_cleanup_tool.zip) from the above
> link
> to the local Desktop and extract it.
>
> 3. Double click cleanup_tool.exe to run the tool.
>
> 4. Please follow the instructions given.
>
> In the "Product to cleanup:" box, please select ".NET Framework – All
> versions".
>
> 5. Click "Cleanup Now" button.
>
> 6. Restart the computer.
>
> After performing these steps, please move on to the following suggestions
> to reinstall .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0 and their updates.
>
>
> Step 2: Install .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0, and their updates
>
> ============================================
>
> Please download and install the following updates in order.
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package
>
> http://download.micr...06/dotnetfx.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)
>
> http://download.micr...5a/dotnetfx.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
>
> http://download.micr...B867460-X86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 Security Update(KB979906)
>
> http://download.micr...B979906-X86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
>
> http://download.micr...Fx20SP2_x86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows
> 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)
>
> http://download.micr...B974417-x86.exe
>
> Note: When the "File Download" window appears, please click "Save", and
> follow the directions to save the file on the Desktop. After downloading
> all
> the setup files, please double-click on each one to install them.
installed & removed!
remdds wrote:
> Same problem here on my PC. The MS TS email response I got was (basically
> the same- just trying to complete the info contained in this post for all
> those who come after):
>
>
> The issue can be caused by a damaged .NET Framework component. At this
> time,
> please refer to the following steps to troubleshoot this issue.
>
> Step 1: Remove .NET Framework using removal tool
>
> ================================
>
> 1. Please download the tool from the following link:
>
> http://cid-27e6a35d1...leanup_tool.zip
> [Please Note: The third-party product discussed here is manufactured by a
> company that is independent of Microsoft. We make no warranty, implied or
> otherwise, regarding this product's performance or reliability. ]
>
> 2. Please save the zip file (dotnetfx_cleanup_tool.zip) from the above
> link
> to the local Desktop and extract it.
>
> 3. Double click cleanup_tool.exe to run the tool.
>
> 4. Please follow the instructions given.
>
> In the "Product to cleanup:" box, please select ".NET Framework – All
> versions".
>
> 5. Click "Cleanup Now" button.
>
> 6. Restart the computer.
>
> After performing these steps, please move on to the following suggestions
> to reinstall .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0 and their updates.
>
>
> Step 2: Install .NET Framework 1.1, 2.0, and their updates
>
> ============================================
>
> Please download and install the following updates in order.
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework Version 1.1 Redistributable Package
>
> http://download.micr...06/dotnetfx.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)
>
> http://download.micr...5a/dotnetfx.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1
>
> http://download.micr...B867460-X86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 Security Update(KB979906)
>
> http://download.micr...B979906-X86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
>
> http://download.micr...Fx20SP2_x86.exe
>
> Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows
> 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)
>
> http://download.micr...B974417-x86.exe
>
> Note: When the "File Download" window appears, please click "Save", and
> follow the directions to save the file on the Desktop. After downloading
> all
> the setup files, please double-click on each one to install them.
#16
PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted 10 June 2010 - 11:58 AM
You're welcome & thanks for your feedback.
R. Melville wrote:
> Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first
> time
> I have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
>
> It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
>
> As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed
> that
> the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE
> of these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
> information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
> the first place!
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
R. Melville wrote:
> Thanks for this cogent method to solve the problem. This was the first
> time
> I have had a problem with a MS Update (KB979906).
>
> It took nearly two hours to fix the darn thing, but it DID work.
>
> As I was removing all of the .NET Framework pieces manually, I noticed
> that
> the ADD/REMOVE programs screen from the control panel indicated that NONE
> of these programs had ever been used since they were installed. If that
> information is accurate, I am wondering why I have this stuff installed in
> the first place!
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
#17
stock51
Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:59 PM
Had to run this same scenario last October for KB953297. It gets irritating
to have to run this time consuming fix again in less than 1 year. Would like
to underline the word irritating.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> [Another county heard from...]
>
> Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed:
> http://gawker.com/55...-owners-exposed
>
>
> unclemikenebr wrote:
> > Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
> <snip>
>
> .
>
to have to run this time consuming fix again in less than 1 year. Would like
to underline the word irritating.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> [Another county heard from...]
>
> Apple's Worst Security Breach: 114,000 iPad Owners Exposed:
> http://gawker.com/55...-owners-exposed
>
>
> unclemikenebr wrote:
> > Who has time for this? Is this why people switch to Mac Computers?
> <snip>
>
> .
>
#18
j_65_uk
Posted 10 June 2010 - 02:34 PM
I run a network of over 200 machines and use WSUS to deploy our
Windows/Microsoft patches. Since patch tuesday (2 days ago) kb979906
kb979909 were approved and sent out to all machines.
We now have 68 (and increasing) machines all showing errors trying to
install those two patches!!
A full removal of .net is simply not an option so this is very
frustrating - I'll watch this thread with interest...
J:confused:
--
j_65_uk
Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
#19
sherlockomes
Posted 10 June 2010 - 07:03 PM
Hi j: I started this thread looking for an answer and although i recommend
PA BEAR [MS MVP]'s solution of complete removal and intallation of all the
..NET Frameworks in correct prescibed order as being safest method, i took a
risky shortcut (as i always do) and just uninstalled the .NET 1.1 Framework
alone and then just reinstalled it again as i am a bit lazy.I was very
pleased when i checked for updates the problem KB979906 was there and
installed perfectly without a hitch.I have had no problems since then
(although it is early days). I think the problem is that the .NET 1.1
Framework has become corrupt with all the fixes and patches so a simple
re-installation does the trick.
I hope you could maybe try this as an option for all your computers but
don't blame me if it is unsuccessful. I am practical but no computer buff. It
is worth a try though if your only other alternative is complete removal /
re-installation of all .NETs. on all 200 machines. cheers S...omes
"j_65_uk" wrote:
>
> I run a network of over 200 machines and use WSUS to deploy our
> Windows/Microsoft patches. Since patch tuesday (2 days ago) kb979906
> kb979909 were approved and sent out to all machines.
>
> We now have 68 (and increasing) machines all showing errors trying to
> install those two patches!!
>
> A full removal of .net is simply not an option so this is very
> frustrating - I'll watch this thread with interest...
>
> J:confused:
>
>
> --
> j_65_uk
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
> .
>
PA BEAR [MS MVP]'s solution of complete removal and intallation of all the
..NET Frameworks in correct prescibed order as being safest method, i took a
risky shortcut (as i always do) and just uninstalled the .NET 1.1 Framework
alone and then just reinstalled it again as i am a bit lazy.I was very
pleased when i checked for updates the problem KB979906 was there and
installed perfectly without a hitch.I have had no problems since then
(although it is early days). I think the problem is that the .NET 1.1
Framework has become corrupt with all the fixes and patches so a simple
re-installation does the trick.
I hope you could maybe try this as an option for all your computers but
don't blame me if it is unsuccessful. I am practical but no computer buff. It
is worth a try though if your only other alternative is complete removal /
re-installation of all .NETs. on all 200 machines. cheers S...omes
"j_65_uk" wrote:
>
> I run a network of over 200 machines and use WSUS to deploy our
> Windows/Microsoft patches. Since patch tuesday (2 days ago) kb979906
> kb979909 were approved and sent out to all machines.
>
> We now have 68 (and increasing) machines all showing errors trying to
> install those two patches!!
>
> A full removal of .net is simply not an option so this is very
> frustrating - I'll watch this thread with interest...
>
> J:confused:
>
>
> --
> j_65_uk
> Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
>
> .
>
#20
Tiletron
Posted 11 June 2010 - 11:47 AM
I'm afraid that solution won't work for me. I've had my machine for less than
two years from Dell and it's the second time it's had this corruption - the
only way to fix it was to backup my stuff and reinstall everything...
I suspect this problem is never really going to go away, simply because it's
the way Dell fiddle with the OS so their hardware can work! Isn't there just
a simple direct-download link for this file like everything else?
two years from Dell and it's the second time it's had this corruption - the
only way to fix it was to backup my stuff and reinstall everything...
I suspect this problem is never really going to go away, simply because it's
the way Dell fiddle with the OS so their hardware can work! Isn't there just
a simple direct-download link for this file like everything else?

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